Uriel: Here again, you can not engage your rational mind. It is very easy to flow back and forth between the physical experience and the non-physical experience of those radiational fields, whether they are simplistic, in just patterns of particles, or they are more extensive and come in forms of waves. Where we are going is opening the consciousness to begin to step out of the linear formats of the mental and emotional bodies to allow both to exist simultaneously in the experience. And not have to formulate them or put them in specific boxes. It flows simultaneously and is accessed simultaneously through the physical experience and expression and the non-physical expression and experience.